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[ronnie55]

Benito I don't think JC is electable, but I will be voting labour at the next GE.
It's not that I don't like his policies or would be unhappy to see him inside no 10, it's exactly the opposite on both counts, but I would be amazed if labour won the next GE.
But in saying that, right now I don't think anyone in the Labour Party could defeat the Tories. I hope I am wrong, but I reckon the Tories will see me out.

My personal opinion is that JC is NOT electable full stop.
And I'm willing to bet that he will never see the other side of the door of No 10.

I, as a labour voter will be hard pressed to vote for a party led by such an out of touch leader.
That gives me no pleasure whatsoever.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...26486.html

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My personal opinion is that JC is NOT electable full stop.
And I'm willing to bet that he will never see the other side of the door of No 10.

I, as a labour voter will be hard pressed to vote for a party led by such an out of touch leader.
That gives me no pleasure whatsoever.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...26486.html

The problem is the Labour Party set itself up for this with its crazy voting and membership policy.
Allowing people an immediate say in a party for £3 was niave in the extreme. Every left winger in the country it seems has joined the party, alongside a minority who joined with less than genuine motives.
He goes on about labour are now the biggest party in Europe without realising or caring that that is exactly his parties problem. There is now a massive disconnect between labour and its traditional more right wing voters like myself.

I know that labour have done ok in the council elections but these voters were not voting for the next PM. Not until the next GE will we see how much damage has been done. And even then with this massive skewed membership he could still hold on to power.

I will vote labour but with a heavy heart in the knowledge that I am wasting my vote.
If anyone has any doubt about what happens to a party who fail to listen to thier voters and treats them with contempt, then look at Scotland. Labour are now our third party in the Scottish Parliament, with only one Scottish MP in Westminster.

Sad times.

[Nightstaffer]

A political party is elected on its policies
Or it should be
Instead we have an ill informed electorate who believe what the Murdoch controlled media tell them

How many of these disgruntled working class voters actually know what Labour Party policy is on many matters

Ok JC. might not palatable to many and he won't be the only leader to lose an election solely on an image issue

Ed Milliband eating a bacon butty

But there is an ever increasing support for Corbyns policies
350,000+ members didn't vote for him because they liked the cut of his suits or his table manners but because they agree with and have an understanding of his policies

These hundreds of thousands are going to become more active . Yes they will be called Trots and extremists but they will
grow and swell and the policies will become more set in stone ( but not carved on one like gimmicky Ed)

So yes the time will come before the next General Election for the decision to be made about who leads the Labour Party into that GE. And use an assumption to dismiss the Labour Party and hence throw suppprt behind the Tories

Whether it is Corbyn or not who ends up heading the GE campaign is yet to be decided, so let's rid ourselves of the assumption that it will automatically be Jeremy and dismiss the policies

But over the coming weeks , months the policies will be aired , heard and put before the public at a grassroots level and published widely and honestly without spin
Corbyn might go
The policies will remain and nobody that I know will be worse for them
Being implemented
The worry is that those that will benefit most if they are implemented are those that will be dissuaded for voting for them

[ronnie55]

Here's Danny Lockwood' brilliant editorial in the Press. Absolutely spot on.

Ed Lines
Friday 30th September 2016
WAY-HAAY! Vote Labour! Lordy, I have seen the light!

All of these years as a ‘small’ businessman labouring (pardon the pun) under the duplicitous Blairites and conniving Cameroons when all I ever really needed was a loony left socialist like John McDonnell!

Are you familiar with McDonnell, Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow chancellor?

He may well be the political Marx/Trotsky to Jezza’s Lenin, but right now he’s my hero. I kid you not.

If we get a Labour government – true, it’s a bit of a big ‘if’ – but if we do, then Old McDonnell is going to make sure every little piggy, sheep and chuck-chuck on the farm gets a minimum wage of £10 an hour.

And with the hours I put in during a week, that’s an approximate doubling of my current wage! Where have these guys been all my business life?

Beg pardon? What’s that you say? They’ve had their idiotic heads up their communist wotsits all of my business life?

Ah yes, I see. In reality – a place far from the dreamworld these clowns inhabit – there’s not a cat in hell’s chance of me getting my tenner an hour.

You see, being the boss, I’m the last man paid. I sometimes get the proverbial scrattings from the cat’s litter tray. Other times it’s champagne. Mostly it’s a bit in the middle, but you never can tell.

One thing is for sure however – in a small business, which is what underpins this country’s economy, not every job is a tenner-an-hour job.

Oh sure, everyone deserves their tenner an hour, I’m not arguing that.

But then again we all deserve to live a healthy and contented life for at least our three-score-and-ten.

We all deserve to find true love; we all deserve a new iPhone, poor kids deserve a new bike and Playstation … blah de blah de blah.

Except life isn’t quite like that, sadly.

So yes Mr McDonnell, I can give everyone a tenner-an-hour minimum wage if your new Marxist government insists. Get this though – the very next week I’ll have to make half of them redundant. I’ll have to trim the business right back to basics, just to survive.

Now, I know that you and Comrade Corbyn think that anyone who isn’t in a trade union is a thieving capitalist pig, but even financial morons like you chaps must realise that if a million people are suddenly thrown on the dole, then the benefits bill will go through the roof, the economy will go into recession and tax revenues will shrink.

We’ve already heard their solution to that, which is when it gets really scary. Labour plans to borrow £100 BILLION, apparently because interest rates are so low (in which case let’s all fill our boots, why don’t we?)

There speak Corbyn and McDonnell the true socialists – economic illiterates who’ll be long gone by the time our kids and grandkids have to pay for their madcap profligacy.

But hey, they and their trades union mafia dons will have made their point, which is actually what this is about – bringing down a successful, democratic, capitalist system.

They’ll do it out of spite for their own pathetic shortcomings and out of solidarity with a communist ideal that was discredited decades ago.

And we thought the Americans had it bad with Donald and Hillary.

[notnarcissus]

[ronnie55]

So says John McDonnell the Marxist, or is he?
Was he joking?
Who knows?
Does he know?

Is he lying? well of course he's a politician, and allegedly a nasty piece of work.:p
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/...t-worry-c/

[bill.advanced]

I don

So says John McDonnell the Marxist, or is he?
Was he joking?
Who knows?
Does he know?

Is he lying? well of course he's a politician, and allegedly a nasty piece of work.:p
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/...t-worry-c/

You real,y need to stop swallowing the Murdoch and Tory narrative Ronnie :eek:

[Ajax]

Is he lying? well of course he's a politician, and allegedly a nasty piece of work.:p
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/...t-worry-c/

"You're a nasty piece of work" Says Anna Soubry ... the alcoholic second rate TV presenter and third rate politician.

[josephine]

"You're a nasty piece of work" Says Anna Soubry ... the alcoholic second rate TV presenter and third rate politician.

Now what did you have to go and wind me up for ?
Just the name Anna Soubry sends me in to one. :mad::mad: