So what will re affiliation to Labour mean for the FBU?

[Nightstaffer]

What will reaffliation mean for the FBU?
Greater credibility within the Labour movement.
More influence .
Closer ties with other unions.
Acknowledgement and recognition of past performance , sticking at campaigns, albeit unsuccessful but hard fought
The FBU has earned the right to sit at the top tables of the Labour Party and the TUC
Who better than the FBU!

The FBU has been punching above its weight , not getting the rewards is true but which Union has?
Surely it's got to be better if unions draw together and add more punching power to the Labour Party to help them gain power at Westminster. Hence my view Scotland are just interested bystanders .

Trade unions and Labour go hand in hand
So you are going to leave the FBU because it goes back to its roots and re affiliates with the Labour Party ?
Are you leaving a trade Union but still remaining a trade unionist
Or where you never a trade unionist in the first place and this is your chance to jump ship

Will you accept any benefits that the FBU wring out of the employers,now being made doubly difficult by your departure
Or will you reject them


Out of principle?

[zoot]

I am a bit puzzled here
Scotland has less than 10% pro rata of the total population of the UK
Hardly anyone in Scotland votes Labour
So us Socialists in England are stuck with a Tory Govt
Now these quasi tories are making most noise about reaffiliation
The FBU want to help take the fight to the Tories
That is clear
So we have the Hibs, Caledonians, the Scots , and the Picts, and assorted other minorities deciding who gets to run England
And when English trade unionists try to unite they Become most vociferous


They don't recognise Labour North of the border so why have a say in what goes on in Kingston upon Thames and the House that sits on the Thames.

Too few people with too much to say
The FBU in Scotland is a Region of the FBU not a separate national entity

Non bowlers off the green please

So its just us "Quasi Tories! up North that are making noise about re affiliation ..?

Take another look mate... there are more than just us complaining...!!!

Oh and i pay may dues, so i can moan if i want...!:mad:

[bill.advanced]

So its just us "Quasi Tories! up North that are making noise about re affiliation ..?

Take another look mate... there are more than just us complaining...!!!

Oh and i pay may dues, so i can moan if i want...!:mad:

He's only fishing zoot don't bite.
Your only offering encouragemet.
On second thoughts
Ye give him hell mate.
Give him hell

[Nightstaffer]

Zoot , of course you can, but the fact remains, from the English perspective Scottish voters hold a bigger say , a greater leverage on who Governs England.
Without Scottish Labour MP we will always have a Tory government.
It as if Scottish voters are imposing a Tory govt on England whilst enjoying the benefits of your own govt
Free tuition fees etc.
Foot in both camps
So Imho it amounts from my POV that in effect when you vote SNP it's a vote for the tories in England

The FBU want to see a Labour Govt
What's wrong with that?

Would you prefer it if they stood alongside Cameron and Osborne?

And some English FBU members may be unhappy about reaffliation
But they must be in the minority because it was carried.

Enough Scottish FBU members don't vote Labour anyway so what's the fuss

[Nightstaffer]

Re affiliation has given the tories a victory not even they could have dreamed of. A divided depleted public sector workforce.

So Jeremy Corbyn stands for the Leadership of the Labour Party
200/1 outsider.
Lots of disenfranchised people especially under 25s recognise him as a real alternative.
The FBU and other unions come to his side and support him
Part of that support his to show solidarity and re affiliate .

And a consequence of that support and solidarity is a divided and depleted public sector workforce?????
Not in my book
Jeremy Corbyn and Matt Wrack are not the cause of a depleted public sector work force.
Look elsewhere for those responsible for cutting back public sector services.

The intention from the FBU and Labour is to unite public sector workers and try to stop the austerity cuts.

Reaffliation has happened
This is the worst time to jump ship.

Many people have joined or rejoined the Labour Party since Corbyn came to prominence
That's a good thing and a concern for the tories
There needs to be more trade union members to keep that message going not less.
A dwindling trade union membership is the victory for the Tories not reaffliation it gives succour to the tories to keep slashing at the most vulnerable.

Leave the FBU and open the door for more cutbacks

[bakes]

NS
Put the vino doon and chill, naebodies biting.

:C

[Nightstaffer]

Vino in the morning ?
It's the Newcastle Broon on me cornflakes Bakes that provides the inspiration LOL
Must be the dark mornings up there Nobody up and about yet

Miss my wee pal JK

Besides I am being serious
( for once)

[bill.advanced]

Vino in the morning ?
It's the Newcastle Broon on me cornflakes Bakes that provides the inspiration LOL
Must be the dark mornings up there Nobody up and about yet

Miss my wee pal JK

Besides I am being serious
( for once)

The weather is horrible up here right now Ns but we are used to that.
And the short winter days are supplemented by two months of long summer days.

Anyway we have got some serious business to hand, ensuring that our 8% of uk population punches well above its weight as it always has and will do.
Sorry Ns no taking the bait this time.

Enjoy your cornflakes and broon ale sounds terrible.
I'm off to watch thistle at Kilmarnock

[velbert]

Not many pro re affiliation comments on the FBU's Facebook page, comments from all over the UK - https://www.facebook.com/Fire-Brigades-U...247543766/

[bill.advanced]

Not many pro re affiliation comments on the FBU's Facebook page, comments from all over the UK - https://www.facebook.com/Fire-Brigades-U...247543766/

Undemocratic, ill informed, and completely unnecessary.
The members are being asked to pay for this, they should have had a vote.